[the following are selections from an interview with Belgian producer/musician Vincent Kenis on the subject of Konono No. 1, a Bazombo-trance-music group from Kinshasa, DRC]
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<<<On first hearing Konono>>>
“When I heard them on the radio, it was ’78, ’79, I don’t remember, maybe ’80, but it was the New Wave period. I was playing in a group called the Honeymoon Killers, and I found a sort of link with this African punk music. And actually I was lucky enough to record that music from the radio onto a cassette and I took the cassette on tour with the Honeymoon Killers and we were listening to this cassette for hours during the travels in the bus and it became like a muse for us. So I wanted to see them in the flesh, in person. This was so radically different from the rumba and the soukous, it intrigued me, and I found a really personal affinity with it.”
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<<<On Konono’s founder, Papa Mingiedi>>>
“He came to Kinshasa when he was very young. I think he came when his father died. He was born in the village, and his father was a musician, and the leader of the king’s orchestra. You know they had local kings in the Congo region. He learned the likembe from his father, and carrying the likembe into town was maybe for him a way to continue to evoke the sounds he heard when he was a kid. It’s like a portable village you’re carrying into the town.”
“Mingiedi doesn’t read. He doesn’t really want to know what’s going on around him, he just plays his thing and goes to bed. If you ask him what kind of music he likes, he would mention probably the styles of the 60s and 70s in the Congo, but he won’t ever make a relation to what he’s doing. “I asked him, ‘Did you ever want to play rumba with your instrument?’ He said, ‘No, there’s no point. It’s not the same thing, it’s not the same planet. I play traditional music.’”
“He could tour the world for 200 years and he wouldn’t change a bit in the way he plays.”
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<<<On the music’s complexities and foreignness>>>
“When Konono plays live, after 10 minutes people start asking, ‘It seems the same all the time, it doesn’t change much song to song—what’s this?’ There’s kind of uneasiness. And then the uneasiness usually goes after 20 minutes, because they just catch the thing…and they just want them to continue forever.”
“Konono music is really very good music for dancing, once you catch the swing. It’s not just square music; it cannot be divided by two infinitum. It’s not in 4/4—it’s like 5/4, or 3/4. It’s quite specific. As soon as people get into it with their bodies—without knowing it, just intuitively—they get it.
”You have to come to terms with the sound—which is evolving constantly and minimalistically over time, but basically staying the same—and realize the shifts in that sameness is the whole game.”
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<<<On recording in Kinshasa>>>
“[The stage] has a corrugated iron roof, which sounds really incredible on the reverb. I always put two microphones pointed toward that ceiling, and it gives that really industrial nice reverb.”
“The drums—they just take scraps of metal and build something that sounds like what they like. One day its hubcaps, the other day its just some boxes.”
“I record everything with a Mac Book Pro computer, so I can take it wherever I like. I transform my hotel room into a recording studio. The rest of the production work was to invite people into my hotel room and hand them a guitar or percussion or even a fader or even the mouse and say ‘OK, just fool around with this and see what happens.’”
“I’m just trying to interpret it in a way that it’s more clearly legible. If I have a role, it’s like a translator…[it’s the] difference between a literal and a literary translation.”
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